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of the republican party, marco rubio and 0 paul ryan outlining their visions for the future of the gop. what it means and what it means for 2016 and beyond. what does former rick perry think about awful this. the texas governor here to talk about that and the possibility of his state going blue. nice to have you on set. he says it's not going to happen. we'll talk about it in a second. >> announcer: 'tis the season mo g out... and along with it, more identity theft.is holiday n is over, an estimated 1.2 million identities may be stolen. every time you pull out your wallet, shop online or hit the road, you give thieves a chance to ruin your holiday. by the time you're done watching this, as many as 40 more identities may be stolen. you can't be on the lookout 24/7, but lifelock can. they're relentless about protecting your identity every minute of every day. when someone tries to take over your bank accounts, drain the equity in your home, or even tries to buy a car in your name, lifelock is on guard. and with lifelock's 24/7 alerts, they contact you by text, phone or email as soon as they de
battles. his track record was decidedly mixed. an early and enthusiastic backer of marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz, pat toomey and mike lee, all elected to the u.s. senate. he also endorsed candidates including kr christine i'm not a witch o'donnell, todd legitimate rape akin and richard god intends for you to get raped mourdock. demint couldn't help himself on the way out giving speaker boehner one poke in the eye on the rush limbaugh show yesterday. >> i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> zing. is demint more of a threat to his party now he's outside the senate? as lbj famously said of jay edgar hoover probably better to have him inside the tent out, than outside the tent in. joining us is former chairman of the rnc, in a red sweater, msnbc contributor, the notorious michael steele. that is a fetching color for you, chairman. >> thank you. ho, ho, hey. >> chairman steele tell us what this departure means for the rnc? everybody is reading this differently. some saying tea he'
for 2016. you have the jack kemp forum tonight and both marco rubio and paul ryan are speakers. >> right. marco rubio is honored tonight. paul ryan was the honoree last year. yes, andrea. these are two guys without question are going to be in that 2016 presidential race barring some sort of unforeseen circumstance. they're both positioning themselves to lead the party. i'm interested to see what they talk about, because i think both of them -- paul ryan is talking about poverty. marco rubio is talking about education so not two typical what we would traditional republican issues, taxes and those sorts of things. this is an attempt by both men, i think, and a chance for both men to expand on what it means to be a member of the republican party and to try to broaden an appeal we saw in the 2012 election is just not broad enough particularly among hispanics. they are problems with women and young people. rubio is 41 and ryan is 42 years old who are leading a youth movement that the party hopes will change that appeal, correct their demographic problems and it starts even though the election
ryan and marco rubio at the american enterprise institute where they took on that challenge. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear, republicans must steer far clear of that trap. >> i have heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people just want what my parents had, a chance. >> george will, i think marco rubio used the phrase, middle-class, more than two dozen times in that speech. >> yeah, usually the forgotten middle class and it's all we talk about. is the forten middle class. the republicans' problem is the national problem, the sense of stagnation among americans who are not on the ladder of upward mobility. right now, the widening disparities. health care costs and the cost of that which puts you on the ladder, the cost of college. in about four, five weeks, we are going to pass a milestone, a trillion dollars of student debt. more than credit card debt in this country. t
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of a conversation. marco rubio has been working in the senate, i have been working in he house. is was an immigration attorney for 15 years. the reality is we need have both parties work on this. i if you look at what the democrats did, they had two years in the house of representatives and the senate where they had clear majorities where they could have done something about immigration reform. instead they refused to do anything about and it what they want to have is the political football they can always blame republicans. they're using this as a political tool and they don't really want to resolve anything. they were able to do something about healthcare reform but couldn't do anything about immigration reform and they want to keep continuing to blame the republicans for their failure of leadership. so, now we are actually doing something. they're going to continue to move the goalpost every time we do something on immigration, so they can have this political tool they can hit us over the head with. >> rue all, we have a stem bill and it's actually michael grimm, a republica
. he has to be against the dream act. marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise, but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. if you were back at your old job, rnc chair, you may be there again for all i know, how would you repair this thing? would you go to demint and his crowd moving to the outside to sort of build their sort of logger out there to fight the establishment or would you say, wait a minute, the future is dead center conservative. it's not fringy, it's not john birch, not going over -- >> i would remind them we're a center right party very much like the country -- >> i don't agree with that. >> the country is center right. >> they just voted for obama. >> center left. >> that's another show. we'll have that conversation. but the country is center right in large measure. >> we can't have another arithmetic system. >> this is not about the math. this is about the facts and the realities on the ground. >> the facts. the numbers. >
to senator marco rubio, had a sit-down conversation with him. i guess when you talked to him, you took another crack at that science question. clarify an answer he gave to "gq" when he was asked about the age of the earth. remember, senator rubio took a little grief, saying that he was not qualified to answer the question, calling it, quote, one of life's great mysteries. remember, i'm not a scientist, man, the whole thing. yesterday, mike, i guess you spoke to him as part of the "playbook" breakfast and you gave him a chance to explain that answer. let's listen. >> how old do you think the earth is? >> first of all, the answer i gave was trying to make the same point the president made a few years ago, and that is there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. i mean, it's established it. pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a theological debate which is a pretty healthy debate. >> mike, what did you come away with talking to marco rubio yesterday? >> people in the room came away thinking that he was really smooth, really on his game. and thi
last year, and i want to say congratulations to marco rubio on receiving this well deserved honor. [applause] now, as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients for this award. [laughter] two of us so far. i will see you at the reunion dinner. [applause] [laughter] i am sure the press will not read too much into that one. [laughter] i want to thank you all for your kind hospitality. i want to thank you, jimmy, for holding this event. wherever i went, people would say, i work for jack kemp. that legacy lives on some much because of the connection to the family. there was something this legacy .as such reach hi it is an honor to be a part of this an. jack kemp was my mentor. knowing jack kemp was one of the greatest experiences of my life. i was lucky to work with him. i do not know if bill is here. he has to wake up really early in the morning to do his radio show. he and i served in the house of representatives. we had our top hits. -- tough hits. we share something in common. we both used to be the next vice president of the united states. [applause] though
the presidential mansion just up the block. then just two saturdays ago, florida senator marco rubio was showing a little leg in iowa showing this early nominating state where he broke a fundraising record for the governor there. on tuesday night, this week, rubio and another potential gop heir apparent, congressman paul ryan are looking to get their political weight up by laying out their respective road maps for the jack kemp foundation. republicans ready to turn the page are introducing their new class of hopefuls, nice and early. it's a big class. a herd if you will of elephants stampeding toward 2016. there are those whose ethnic heritage alone will help to put a new face on the gop. in addition to senator rubio, there's new mexico governor susanna martinez, louisiana governor bobby jindal, south carolina governor nicki hailey and brian sandoval. two of the contenders intersect with the contingent of women would-be nominees. along with minnesota congressman michele bachmann. she isn't the only do over on the list. she's joined by fellow pennsylvania senator rick santorum and texas governor
that fiscal cliff. this morning president obama and senator marco rubio battling it out over what to do about taxes. their remarks are just ahead? landmark legislation in michigan that could change the face of the unions forever michigan is now a right-to-work state. will others follow? clayton? >> plus, is he behind on his child support. so one judge ordered this father of nine to stop having kids just stop having kids. but is that fair? is that allowed? can they do that? a little bit like china, perhaps. "fox & friends" hour two starts right now. >> ainsley was singing. i can't help but sing that. they actually -- they have a band. the lady's voice i saw her. >> the "fox & friends" band? >> yes. >> really? >> i was standing in the audience and another girl that i worked with she said you know she sings the "fox & friends" ballad. >> really? >> i met her. >> go on tickets. i will go on stub hub for that that's ainsley air earhardt in for alisyn. >> in for dave briggs. fiscal cliff. just a few days left. if you count christmas. only a few weeckets and got the christmas break so congress bette
's not what's in the box, it's the packaging. look what he did with marco rubio. a perfect study of what jim demint specializes. in you say to latinos, look at this guy. he's brown like you. but when he starts to speak, he has to say the same doctrine script and say party line. he has to be against the dream act. marco rubio was for privatizing social security. he's for all the same stuff that the american people over and over again have rejected ideawise but he can put it in a nicer package. that's what jim demint has been trying to say. >> how do you say self deportation in spanish? >> i don't think there's a term for it. >> i won't go there. but i think to joy's point and she makes a good one that i think the reality for the gop right now is it's no longer about the packaging. it really is about the substance -- >> it's a center right party back to your strong point. >> exactly. it's about the substance of the argument you have to make to the american people and we can disagree or agree on whether the country is center right or center left but the fact of the matter is we need to be where
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it. >> reporter: republicans, like rising star senator marco rubio, say raising taxes on the wealthy is the wrong approach. >> the tax increases he wants would fail to make even a small dent in the debt. it would hurt middle-class businesses and the people who work for them. >> reporter: so, that's the major holdup, taxes. republicans and democrats deeply divided. >> there's nothing going on privately that's not going on public. >> reporter: amidst the political posturing, there may actually be a chance for compromise on medicare. president obama says he's open to raising the age when seniors can start receiving benefits, from 65 to 67. according to one study, that would save almost $6 billion a year. president obama travels, today, to the business roundtable, where he'll address ceos of leading companies, folks who are closely watching this fiscal cliff drama. paula? rob? >> drama, indeed. tahman bradley, live in washington. thanks, tahman. >>> and a top republican may be among president obama's choice for his reshuffled cabinet. former senator chuck hagel of nebraska is said to be
fiscal cliff. that's what florida senator marco rubio is talking about. >> he discusses the negotiations on capitol hill and the raising taxes. >> my parents worked in the service industry we were able to afford a house. we always had what we needed thank god and thank this country. that's only possible in the future if we have limited government and enter prides. people come here from all over the world to get away from big government. i hope multiple voices out there making the argument. it is the only way forward for us. we will never be able to raise enough taxes to get out of the situation we are in. the only way forward is rapid economic growth. not new taxes we need new taxpayers. >> rubio sa>> what a difference few days can make. we had gorgeous weather a few days ago. it will be really wintery outside today. >> somebody in the hallway this morning was why is it so cold out, dean? it is december. we had a treat with warmer than average temperatures than most. winter out there in new york city. we were talking about 70 degree temperatures a couple days ago in chicago. 53 dallas. 5
won his race. >> look at that. senator marco rubio is taking a second crack at science. he's trying again. he's clarifying an answer he gave gq last month when asked about the age of the earth. rubio took some grief for saying in part he was not qualified to answer. >> he's not a scientists, man. >> calling it one of life's great mysteries. >> that and like why is hair growing on my knuckles. >> we should ask him. at a breakfast yesterday, mark allen gave the senator a chance to explain his answer. >> so how old do you think the earth is? >> let me tell you the answer i gave. the answer i gave was trying to make the same point the president made a few years ago. that is there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. it's established at a pretty definitively, at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a thee lodgeal debate which is a pretty healthy debate. >> that's good. >> rubio said he wished he had explained his point more clearly in the gq article and joked it deposit get much attention outside of washington. >> you know, actually, i think that was a good answer.
in the house. >> sense -- the senate is different, now i'm in senate with pat tumi and marco rubio, and soon to be ted cruz. neil: you are in a bigger minority now. you are not feeding the beast i'm throwing at you. there is a riff, that everyone is, you saw this page, that everyone is going along with job boehner, a few grumbling folks but they are all onboard with the tax hike thing. and that just the way it and, and we got to cave, and what say you? >> the government does not need any more money, the country needs less government. neil: what do you think with what john boehner has come up with? that was his opening offer. >> it makes no sense to negotiate with ours when a president has not put a serious offer on the table. we need to remind americans, we do not need to take more money from the economy and give it to incomincompetent politicians and bureaucrats, we're not talking about revenue problem, we have doubled our spending but they' more money, and they want republicans to vote to pay for obama's welfare state, we did not vote for it. neil: you would not -- you would not support a
say it's a cautionary tale and marco rubio talked about this equation in his saturday address. >> we must reform our uncertainty job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes, but our goal should be again rating new tax revenue not new taxes. >> clayton: we like things fast. >> and do you do this during christmas shopping, buying something for yourself. >> clayton: all the time. >> alisyn: all the time. >> clayton: i find way to pay myself back first. >> a study came out and said impulse buying costs all of us about $200 per month. >> clayton: what kind of impulses, i'm thinking of stuff at the checkout aisle. i need gum. and i need to buy some candle votives, suddenly. >> people buy clothing and shoes. >> women do that, and the study finds mostly. and i know the feeling, you go out shopping for somebody, wait a minute, this fur vest is on sale? i suddenly need one. last weekend we had a kids segment on the show, remember that? we had almost like the netflix for kids toy, and the-- >> yes. >> clayton: they had a neat magnet set for kids and i looked at it and went on a
of the shadows, following his failed run for president. wisconsin republican with florida senator marco rubio urged the gop to unite voters, not divide them. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. >> ryan pointed out that he and rubio are seen as presidential contenders in 2016 and asked if anyone knew any good diners in iowa and new hampshire. >>> the united states taking a stand against people with disabilities? former senator bob dole took to the senate floor in his wheelchair to push for support of the united nations treaty that helps disabled people around the world. despite that, senators voted against the treaty, something that would presumably have had a wide margin of supp
the most famous, marco rubio. he was backing marco rubio when established republicans were backing charlie crist. he says he can do more as an ideas now over at heritage, the oldest think tank on the conservative side. keep your eye on the governor of south carolina, she's a republican, it's up to her to pick a replacement to serve for two years who will she pick? that's what everybody wants to know. >> all right. thanks. >>> in egypt, opponents of president mohammed morsi are expected to take to the streets again. they were out in force last night in cairo chanting it was time for their president to resign. their anger was sparked two weeks ago when morsi granted himself sweeping powers. last night, morsi refused to rescind that decree, despite calls from proponents calling for him to do so. >>> the photographer who took a picture of a man standing on the subway tracks as a train approached insists he was trying to alert the driver of the train. that photo make it on the front page of the "new york post" it is sparking outrage. people are asking why the photographer did not do more to hel
to both of you. if i can start with you,ç jonathan, paul ryan and marco rubio spoke to a group of conservatives last night. they talked about helping the poor get into the middle class. in fact, i think we have a shot of paul ryan helping the poor. yes, there he is, in a soup kitchen during a campaign photo op. as we know, it was all just talk. when are we going to start hearing substance from these men or any republicans, for that matter? >> paul ryan would say he's been talking substance for a long time on these issues. it's just that we don't like what he's saying. we don't like his prescriptions for how he would help the poor. personally, i think paul ryan -- >> how does it help the poor by stripping meals on wheels, remove pell grants, how does that help the poor? >> that's a question for congressman ryan. i'm telling you from his mindset, his perspective, one way to help people and the economy is to ensure the country is on sound financial fiscal footing. the way he wants to go about it would devastate the very people he says he wants to help reach the middle class and ac
senator marco rubio punted on the question of how old the earth is, calling it a great mystery. it's not a mystery it's what the potential presidential candidate for 2016 was playing to the large number of evangelicals who believe in the literal truth of the bible. fast forward to today where rubio was given a retake on that pop question by politico's michael len. >> there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. it's established pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a theological debate, which is a pretty healthy debate. >> rubio went on to say americans should teach children science but they also have the right to teach them religion. that's interesting. senator, you can't teach religion in public schools. by the way, think about it, what religion would you teach in public schools? we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." what is the washington gridlock on fiscal negotiations look like to the rest of the world, particularly europe where eurozone are taking drastic budget cuts and austerity measures that make our situation look
ryan and marco rubio. they were there to challenge what the president is asking for. this is paul ryan. >> an election is coming along and people made their choice. policy makers still have a duty to choose between ideas that work and those that don't. when one economic after another failed our working families, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if your tax rate is too high or uncertain. i personally oppose the president's plan to raise taxes. [applause] listen, this is not about a pledge. it is not about protecting millionaires and billionaires. for me it is the fact that tax increases he wants would fail to make a small dent in the debt but it would hurt the middle class business and people who work for them. >> gretchen: this is what the campaign was about . people are sick i and tired of hearing the same talking points . people want to see actual tax reform. ge
senator marco rubio, winner of the 2012 jack kemp foundation leadership award, will be speaking. along with congressman paul ryan who won the award last year. the award named after the former congressman from buffalo, who also ran for president, served as secretary of housing and urban development. and up until that awards dinner begins, 7:50 eastern, we're going to bring you more from the campaign to fix the debt event with white house economic advisor gene spurling. he called congressional republicans' deficit reduction plan, quote, disappointing, and very unfortunate. we'll also hear from ohio republican senator rob portman. >> morning. thank you all for joining us this morning. i am working with the campaign to fix the debt and i'm the president of the committee for responsible federal budget. and i'm really excited to join a phenomenal panel that we have with us today to help the campaign fix the debt which is a large nonpartisan coalition that is focused on helping members of congress come together to put in place a comprehensive debt deal. so i'm very delighted that today is wha
in 2016, doug? >> absolutely not. with marco rubio, i think going to terry branstead's birthday party in the caucus in iowa, i think the senator-- given the financial and political, organizational challenges involved it's almost imperative, dana, if you run, you begin this soon. >> and maybe start before four years out having to run for other offices and peggy, what goes through somebody's mind? what is the process that you think about, wow, you really could be president. that's a big leap and how, what's the process that you go through individually and then maybe with your family? >> well, yes, it's a big imaginatively-- to imagine yourself as president, i think the first thing you have to do right about now or even before now is think, do i have the right stuff? can i do this? do my spouse and my children, are they, a, people who, who can accept this and tolerate this and b, could they really accept it and tolerate it, meaning can they do what they think they can? it's such a grueling thing to run for president, you have to talk to yourself in a way about can i take constant media s
. there was a tribute to honor the late jack kemp. two men who had their eye on 2016. congressman paul ryan and marco rubio laid out their visions for expanding the appeal to the middle class. clear from the outset that the night was about moving past mitt romney. ryan welcomed rubio to the dinner, by the way, by joking about potential early state r run-ins the two of them may have ahead of them. >> i'll see you at the reunion can dinner for two. notice any good diners in new hampshire or iowa? >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire. but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> in his first big public speech since losing the presidential contest, they now have something in common. >> we both used to be the next vice president of the united states. though i wish this election turned out a little differently i'm proud of a campaign that mitt romney and i ran. losing is part of politics. and it can often prepare the way for greater victories. >> if that weren't enough of a signal that ryan is ready to move past the romney campaign with hi
congressman paul ryan senator marco rubio attended a dinner honoring the late anti-tax supply sider jack kemp. ryan distanced himself at that dinner from mitt romney's now notorious 47% remarks. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we need need to speak to the aspirations -- [ applause ] we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> jennifer: wonder why he wasn't telling romney that on the campaign. anyway romney and rubio then were up there joking that they're going to be seeing a lot of each other on the 2016 iowa, new hampshire, south carolina dinner circuit. so, of course, for the latest on the republicans quixotic branding campaign, we're going to turn to christine pelosi, chair of the women's caucus in her fabulous pink blazer. her political analysis can be found on politico's arena section. what do you think? do you think democrats would like a shot at running against ryan agai
billion dollars among friends? anyway, last month republican senator marco rubio punted on the question of how old the earth is, calling it a great mystery. it's not a mystery it's what the potential presidential candidate for 2016 was playing to the large number of evangelicals who believe in the literal truth of the bible. fast forward to yesterday when rubio was given a retake on that pop question by politico's mike all allen. >> there is no scientific debate on the age of the earth. it's established pretty definitively. at least 4.5 billion years old. i was referring to a these logical debate, which is a pretty healthy debate. >> rubio went on to say americans should teach children science but they also have the right to teach them religion. that's interesting. senator, you can't teach religion in public schools. by the way, think about it, what religion would you teach in public schools? would you want to decide that? this is america. we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're one of them people who gets heartburn and then treats day after day..
marco rubio last night at the same event. >> now, i've heard it suggested that the problem is that the american people have changed. that too many people want things from government. but i'm still convinced that the overwhelming majority of our people, they just want what my parents had, a chance. there are millions of mario rubios across america today. they are not looking for a handout. all they want is a job that provides for their families. >> one man is standing by mitt romney. after listening to ryan and rubio's remarks, today rush limbaugh said this. >> one thing i will tell you is that what animated both these guys was romney's 47% comment. the republican party is running away from that. if the people of this country are not -- if a majority are not taught, educated, inspired, motivated to solve their own problems at least in part, nothing is going to change.ç the democratic party is always going to win. we are never going to come man deer the notion that we are the party of government. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst e.j. dion and richard wolf. i'm so
. >> he was an early supporter of florida senator marco rubio. now the gop star, incoming senator cruz who tells mike lee all on the demint list. while 15 won primaries just seven are united states senators today. many party leaders, in fact, blame demint for high-profile senate losses in indiana, delaware, colorado and nevada and in a statement made yesterday minority leader mitch mcconnell said this. i thank senator demint for his uncompromising service to south carolina and our country in the united states senate. service. he probably wishes he was a little less compromising. that's how you can tell the ones secretly happy he was leaving. you heard phraseology like that. demint leaves the senate a month after conservatives were set back by obama's re-election. demint's 2010 network was $65,000. heritage current president made over $1 million in 2010. it's also a powerful statement about where demint believes he can have the most influence as a movement conservative. outside elected office. >> i think i'm in a more pow powerful position than a single united states senator. i am looking f
hedged a little bit. speaking of republicans, a rising star, senator marco rubio had this response in the weekly gop response to the president. >> we must get the national debt under control. tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of sbilgsment programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated uncertain job killing tax code by getting rid of unjustified loopholes. but our goal should be generating revenue by creating new taxpayers not new taxes. >>> so alex, the question, your initial question, can it get done? the answer is yes. joe biden joked yesterday he could run it up to the hill from the white house in 15 minutes and run it back and have the president sign it. maybe not that quick. but most people believe if the will is there and votes are there it could get done in relatively short order. >> that's the big question. the vice president would only be able to get that to send to the president if the republicans put something in the house they think will pass. when it comes to a vote, would they put anything up th
coups and victories was getting senator marco rubio elected in 2010. >> rubio is a rising star. >> yes. >>> well a minneapolis hospital is apologizing for a maternity ward mix-up. that horrified two new young mothers. tammy's baby boy was mistakenly placed in the wrong bassinet, taken to the wrong mother and breast-fed by that mom. the staff at the hospital acknowledged the error after the woman realized the id band did not match up and the newborn was not hers. the baby's mother couldn't believe what had happened. >> how could this happen? what do you mean he went to somebody else's room? what do you mean, somebody else breast-fed my son? i'm, just what? >> the hospital is investigating the accident. meantime, both moms and the baby are undergoing tests to make sure nothing was passed on to that child. which that is the most important angle of that story. >> exactly. >> the hospital gave an apology letter, promised a full investigation, and will cover the costs of any additional tests, the least they could do. i have never given birth. >> at least not to a child. >> there is -- they t
republicans, the jeb hencerlings and paul ryan and bobby jindal and marco rubio, a lot of strong, younger voices in the party i would like to see more on. i turn on the tv and see newt gingrich back on tv. he hasn't been a republican leader in about 16 years. that's a long time. we need to shift and hear some of the newer voices in the party. >> i have to say just because you have some gray hair doesn't mean you can say those things. this isn't just about being inappropriate. >> i agree, kiki. >> sometimes the truth is inappropriate. these are just dead wrong. they're promoting myths and unfactual statements and you just can't let that go. whether you're young or old, you know better than that and you shouldn't be doing it. >> i agree. i think there are smart ways to talk about a lot of these issues. i think we're going to get that opportunity and it's going to be a test for the party for how we talk about things like immigration reform. if we change how we talk about and think about the immigrant community in this country, that's going to make -- i think that's going to make a difference
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